'PYD doing persecution to Kurdish people'
Hundreds of tousands of people from Kobane living the joy of returning their country with the withdrawal of ISIS, empties their villages with more repressive attitude of PYD that holding the control of the region.
Being number one agenda of all of the press for months because of conflicts in Kobane province of Syria, fell from agenda with withdrawal of ISIS. Because of oppressive attitude of the PYD that holding control of the region in which healthy flow of information can not be provided.
Living the joy of returning to their country with the withdrawal of ISIS hundreds of thousands of people from Kobane, began to suffer a second shock by repressive attitude of PYD that holding the control of the Kobane.
Because the black market established by the PYD basic necessities entering the city are being sold for very high prices, living in big trouble people from Kobane, are confused with PYD recruiting youths to fight on the boundaries.
PYD wants people to evacuate their villages. Because people do not want to go to war. Facing persecution of PYD after experiencing the war and drama , people which returned to their land with thousands hopes have to leave their land once again now.
Kicked out from their land and Trying to enter Turkey , people have to cross the border by using illegal ways because PYD doesn’t approve, they have to pass after illegaly giving bribe to PYD militans.
As Ilke News Agency (ILKHA), we have spoken to Moustapha Bakr (Politician in ENKS), about the problems, latest status, expectations and grievances of the Kurdish region in Syria.
Bakr stated that, returning to Kobane, people could tolerance for hunger, poverty, living in ruins, but they could not accept the pressure on them.
Bakr, the returning Kobane people of hunger, he can afford to live in poverty in ruins, but he could not accept the pressure on him.
Our complite interview with Mustafa Bakr:
After the withdrawal of ISIS what kind of developments occurred in Kobane? Are Kobane people, who were in Turkey as refugees returning there? What is happening there?
80 percent of people from Kobane that went to Turkey, Lebanon, Southern Kurdistan and Europe due to ISIS attacks, were expected to return after the war. Among the Kurds went to these countries, many of those whom think not with their minds but with their feelings, were preparing to return. But now as you see the situation most of those who have returned began to come back. Kobane was being under a siege for months and there are no any medicines, neither food nor water and electricity in Kobane. Because of three sides of the town are enclosed none of the commercial material able to login.
Only the door on the Turkey side left, but because PYD is holding the authority of this door, many materials come from Turkey pass the border through PYD. The PYD has created a black market there. So, unfortunatelly these materials can reach the public in very expensive prices. It is not possible to find oil, diesel and gas there. Even if these materials are found, they are sold for 2 or 3 times higher then the sales prices in Turkey. So people can’t turn to Kobane and only just 25 percent of people returned to Kobane. Many of those who went back to Kobane plan to return.
You said that the material passing to Kobane goes thorugh PYD. So, how does PYD treat people who returned to their lands?
Despite this, even though people tolerate short of food, water, electricity, medicine, fuel and petrol absence, living in ruins, the persecution of PYD is pushing them all. Today PYD is going to all of the villages one by one to collect soldiers. For example, if there are 20 houses in a village, they say that 4 people have to go with them to fight. They send these people as guards to the end zone where there is high possibility of clash. Moreover, none of these people haven’t received any military training and what can they do with a small Kalashnikov given to their hands.
PYD, wants to evacuate the villages of those who refused to join them. They tell them; “Go to Turkey, and now your houses and lands are halal for us.” PYD tells them that, if they leave their lands and houses, they will be placing others to their villages, returning to Kobane people, are confused between death and leaving their lands. We understood some things because ISIS came from outside but we can’t undertand things that done by our own tribe under the name of Kurd. Today, PYD is doing more persecution to Kurdish people than ISIS did.
Well, how kind of attitude was shown by, people to PYD persecution and expulsion to leave their homeland?
What can unarmed people do against the armed people. What can unarmed people do against thieves, pickpockets, mafia. People can’t do anything, but they are very uncomfortable. As I said, people accept tol ive with hunger, difficulty in stress but they never agree to live in the persecution. Or otherwise those people, are not in love with Europe and tent cities in Turkey. Look, ISIS wanted to do demographic change by placing Arab to the region. But they failed to do so. But as we see today PYD is doing the what ISIS failed to do. They treating those who doesn’t want to join them by expulsion from their lands. They replacing them with others that supports PYD. Unfortunately ISIS and PYD are at the same point on providing the demographic changes and assimilation policies.
You have said that PYD was forcing those who doesn’t support them to leave their homes. So, how are these people returning to Turkey? How kind of relay route do they use?
There is a relationship between Turkey and PYD at the border. For example, on one side of the door there is PYD and on the other side there is Turkey. Turkey side let’s those who PYD approved to pass. PYD can even let five hundred people to pass Turkey per day, among those who passed to Kobane. But people like me can’t turn back. Unfortunately People who can not pass this way in legal ways because PYD didn’t let, then they have to pass illegally. Interesting thing is also the ones who are crossing people illegally are PYD’s man. On one hand they make put pressure on people to leave their countries and on the other side they are illegally shipping the people that they didn’t let them to pass on legal ways. The people that they put there for border crossings collect money from the people. So, the Money given them still goes into the hands of the PYD.
So, do Turkey know all these things happening? Why do they close their eyes to this persecution if they know?
The Turkey side knows all the things happening very good. Today, Turkey is an old country with a certain power and Turkey this country a policy. This country has a number of strategic arms and also those arms have paws. PKK and the PYD are some of these paws because they do not have a specific strategy or ideology. They obey to anyone that they benefit from. The relationship between South Kurdistan and Turkey are political and strategic relations. But these people doesn’t have such political relationships. These relations are relations of intelligence. Turkey is runing them because, Turkey has a benefit over the Syria and they say that ' Leave the border crossings to our hands and will do whatever you want us to do.'
Do you think that there was any help towards Kobane after the war?
After the war, nothing reached Kobane. No help received neither by America nor South Kurdistan or from Turkey. Maybe some municipalities, send a little helps that is all. The main reason that no help arrives here is because of wrong policies of Apo lovers with other words PYD’s. Because today in Kobane there is not the sovereignty of the people but sovereignty of a party. People do not just want to help one group. They want to help to a structure consisting of each layer of the population. The PYD does not place any party other than itself. Look, on recent days there was a meeting held for reconstruction of Kobane in Amed wasn’t it? For God's sake who else was in the meeting other than the PKK and the PYD? That's their mindset that they do not recognize the right to life of any other idea than themselves.
Are the claims about PKK that they don’t let people from Kobane settled in Suruc to go to tent cities that established by AFAD (Formal NGO of RoT) are correct?
Two different tent cities were established in Suruc, one of them was established by the Municipality of HDP and the other one was established by Turkey. The conditions in the tent city was established by manicipulity were very difficult. There was no electricity and water and everywhere was in mud and municipalities did not serve to people in this camp. But despite that they were saying that to Kobane people: 'This camp is the camp of our enemies and this one is the camp of our friends' so they were tricking people by hindering them to go to another camp. Many people that afraid from them, went secretly to the other camp. I even should say this: Many people crossed the border by pretending that they were moving to Kobane by giving bribe and after they came back and went to tent cities of government. (ILKHA)